The following material was discovered on the EmptyFlower forums.
http://www.emptyflower.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=8282&st=20
That admin’s name is “Northern Victory” He says:
“Holy shit, HAPPEH is Guen’s ex-student?
I’ve known *of* that guy for years now, seen him on every single goddamned martial art forum and been on his website.
That guy really *is* a psychopath as far as martial arts stuff goes.
Actually I wouldn’t want to meet him in person because the crazy sob might just be insane enough to stab someone to death who disagreed with him.”
Mike Guen responds by saying:
Greetings Northern Victory!
I thought I’d make an attempt here to put to rest curiosity and speculation surrounding my relationship with “Happeh”:
Jalon (Rue) Anderson was a member of my men’s martial arts class for 2 years from 1993 to 1995 in San Francisco and Mill Valley.
Like others who came from martial arts backgrounds Jalon (wing chun) struggled tremendously with the foreign nature of ba gua quan’s principles.
Perhaps it is because I am a psychologist (Ph.D. Boston University), but back then many students I attracted suffered from histories of family dysfunction, addiction, and abuse. The desire to learn martial arts was in my estimation oftentimes a cover for a deeper unconscious need to heal unresolved authority issues through creating drama with a father-type figure. Even to this day, 15 years later, I believe I continue to play this role in Jalon’s mind, who refuses my invitations to travel the 1 hour distance to meet and seek reconciliation.
I’d be happy to answer any further questions for you if I can.
Best,
Michael
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Still taking advantage of the fact that people are trained to acquiesce to those that have learned to project authority huh? How many sheep still fall to their knees in front of you when you say “I am Ba Gua Master Michael Guen, Trained Psychologist”?
Why don’t we inject some honesty into Michael Guen’s response?
Michael Guen said:
“Perhaps it is because I am a psychologist (Ph.D. Boston University), but back then many students I attracted suffered from histories of family dysfunction, addiction, and abuse.”
(1) – Why not be factually accurate Mike? Because it goes against everything you are as a Ba Gua practitioner?
I became Michael Guen’s student after I was recommended to him by an Acupuncturist I had been visiting. I had health issues that I had been trying to overcome for years. My Acupuncturist who I would trust with my life, told me that Mike Guen could help me.
Mike’s mentioning of all of that psychology stuff is his Ba Gua style in action. He smiles at you and then spews poison. “Hi I am Ba Gua Master Michael Guen, Psychologist and trained Chinese Medicine Doctor(The smile), I attract people with psychological problems, emotional problems, and drug issues”(The poison).
That is a verbal version of Michael Guen’s Ba Gua training whose principles can be boiled down to “Trick someone into looking the other way, then hit them when they are not looking”.
Michael Guen does not make direct accusations because he is a coward who is too weak to take responsibility for what he says.
If Michael Guen was to say “Happeh has psychological problems, emotional problems, and drug problems” Michael Guen’s career as a Psychologist would be over. No one who found out Michael Guen the Psychologist went around talking on the internet about what he was told in the sanctity of his Psychology profession would ever pay him a dime again.
Anybody reading this should take warning. If you tell Michael Guen anything in the privacy of his Psychology practice, he is likely to print what you told him on the internet like he is doing with me here.
One of my fellow Ba Gua students happened to be an ex prostitute. That student told Michael Guen in the privacy of his psychology practice that one day he had performed sex 10 times as part of his prostitute job.
You should be asking yourself how I know that fact if the man told Mike during one of his private Psychology office visits.
I know because Michael Guen was so shocked this man had sex 10 times in one day that he told all of us in class! He said “Ya. Steve told me that he had sex 10 times in one day!” Then he got this big grin on his face and we all looked at Steve and started laughing and joking at him.
I never even knew that Steve was a male prostitute! And he had been in class for one and a half years! That information was so private to Steve he had never told me before. But I sure knew what Steve used to do after Michael Guen opened his big mouth and told me!
If you want to be ridiculed for the things you want to see a psychologist about, then by all means go see Michael Guen. He will tell his friends and they will all laugh about you.
(2) – “Even to this day, 15 years later, I believe I continue to play this role in Jalon’s mind, who refuses my invitations to travel the 1 hour distance to meet and seek reconciliation.”
Michael Guen is a liar.
After 8 years of no contact I wrote an email to Michael Guen asking him for assistance with a health problem. Michael Guen told me he would have someone contact me.
3 months went by with no contact.
I emailed Michael Guen again and I said “I wondered if you still had my email address. I have not heard from those people you said would contact me”. Michael Guen’s response was “Yes I have your email address”. That was it. Nothing about why no one had contacted me for three months. No questions about my health problem, if I was OK, or if I would be OK in three more months.
Another 3 months went by with no contact.
I sent another email message. I said “Hi Mike. I have not heard from anyone for 6 months now. That health problem is extremely egregious and I could really use some help”.
I never heard from Michael Guen again.
In light of that incident, do you really believe Michael Guen “wants me to drive one hour to work things out”? Or is he once again making himself look good by “accidentally” forgetting to tell people all of the facts involved in a situation?
Michael Guen is a liar because that is what Ba Gua is all about. Ba Gua is about getting people to believe your lies so you can take what you want from them.
You believe anything Michael Guen says at your own peril.